Young, Catholic...and Ignored? | An Interview with
Tim Drake

Young, Catholic...and Ignored? | An Interview with
Tim Drake
Tim
Drake is an award-winning journalist and author, and a staff writer with
the National
Catholic Register and Faith
and Family magazine.
His most recent book is Young
and Catholic: The Face of Tomorrow's Church (Sophia Institute Press,
2005)
Tim grew up in a Lutheran home in St. Paul, Minnesota. He attended the University
of Minnesota, Morris, graduating with a bachelor's degree and social science
teaching certificate in 1989.
A convert to the Catholic faith (1995), he has published more than 600 articles
in publications such as the National Catholic Register, Our Sunday Visitor,
Catholic World Report, CatholicExchange.com, Columbia, Envoy Magazine, Gilbert!,
Saint Austin Review, The Catholic Faith, and This Rock. He has
appeared on numerous radio and television programs
Tim has published two other books. They are There We Stood, Here We Stand:
11 Lutherans Rediscover their Catholic Roots (1stBooks, 2001) and Saints
of the Jubilee (1stBooks, 2002). He has also contributed chapters to
several other books.
Tim resides in Saint Cloud, Minnesota with his wife and five children. For
more about Tim, visit the YoungandCatholic.com
website.
IgnatiusInsight.com recently spoke to Drake about his new book, Young
and Catholic, which examines the state of Catholicism among Americas
youth.
IgnatiusInsight.com: Why did you decide to write Young and Catholic
and how did it come to fruition?

Tim Drake: Young and Catholic stems from two separate, but related,
experiences. The first experience being my familys attendance at Mass.
We do our best to attend daily Mass as a family as often as we can. Over
the years Ive noticed what I describe as the "graying of the
pews," not only at weekday Masses, but also at Sunday Mass. I found
myself wondering, "Where are the young people?"
The common misperception is that the youth have abandoned their faith and
that they are disengaged from the Church. However, over the years in covering
things Catholic for the National Catholic Register, and most especially
in covering World Youth Day in Toronto in 2002, I came to realize that this
simply wasnt true.
In Toronto, I was very moved by the dialogue that took place between the
youth and Pope John Paul II. Young adults lined up by the hundreds for the
Sacrament of Reconciliation. They knelt in adoration for long periods of
time on a hard convention center floor. They gathered in the rain, filling
the streets to watch the Stations of the Cross, which had been written by
Pope John Paul II, as they were reenacted along Torontos main thoroughfares.
And they pilgrimaged to the site of the final Mass, enduring mud and rain
overnight to celebrate Mass with the Holy Father on Sunday morning. I came
away from Toronto longing to learn more about the ways in which the young
were engaged and active in their faith.
Sophia Institute Press approached me with the idea for the book not long
after World Youth Day. I spent the next year and a half traveling, conducting
interviews, doing research, and writing the book. In the end I spoke with
more than 300 young adult Catholics.
IgnatiusInsight.com: American culture seems to have a schizophrenic approach
to youth. On one hand it celebrates the culture of youth; on the other hand,
it seems to trivialize youth and be cynical about them. Do you think that
is accurate? If so, how much of this perception is driven by pop culture,
Hollywood, and the media?
Drake: Yes, the Western attitude toward youth has always been a bit
perplexing. We tend to treat our young adults at times as if they are still
children, and at other times like adults. You can drive at age 16, join
the Army when youre 17, but you cant vote until youre
18 and cant drink alcohol until youre 21. At what point does
a young person truly become an adult?
While theres some rebelliousness built into the very nature of teenagers,
the media tends to exploit that while ignoring that very rebellion when
it works in ways opposite to what we might expect.
What I mean by that is that its common for the media to use stereotypes
to portray youth as rebellious, sex-obsessed, materialistic, self-centered
and casting off the shackles of the influence of their parents, especially
when it comes to religion.
However, if you sift through the data and spend time talking with youth,
a very different picture emerges. An increasing number of young adults are
embracing chastity. Major studies by Barna and the National Study on Youth
and Religion show that the majority of youth do not feel alienated from
their faith. Young adults long to find something larger than themselves
to serve, as evidenced by their involvement in a variety of youth service
projects at home and abroad. The mainstream media, however, would rather
not report that the young are embracing their faith, sometimes despite the
actions of their parents.
In interviewing young adults, many of them spoke to me of the impact of
rampant divorce, broken families, the sexual revolution and abortion upon
their generation. The young recognize that they are paying a price for the
behavior of the previous generation, and they are genuinely seeking another
way. That way is Christ.
IgnatiusInsight.com: What are some facts about today's youthboth
Catholic and non-Catholicthat may be surprising to readers?
Drake: First off, with a total U.S. Catholic population of 66.4 million,
the Catholic cohort between the ages of eighteen and forty make up approximately
one-third of the total, at roughly 22 million.
Perhaps the most shocking fact is that at least one-third of Generation
X & Y doesnt exist. Theyve been killed in the womb through
legalized abortion. Todays youth recognize that some of their potential
friends, students, co-workers and worshippers, and brothers and sisters
were not given the same opportunity as they were. You cant talk about
what Naomi Schaefer-Riley has termed the "Missionary Generation"
without dealing with that fact.
Perhaps the most surprising statistic I came across during my research was
a figure from a 2004 National Study on Youth and Religion (NSYR) conducted
by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
In one of the most comprehensive studies of twelfth-grade students ever
conducted, NSYR discovered that about two-thirds did not appear to be alienated
from or hostile toward organized religion. The study found that two-thirds
of them closely agree with the religious ideas of their parents. Three-fourths
believe that churches and religious organizations are doing a good or fair
job for the country, and seven in ten would like to see religion exert the
same, more or much more influence in society.
IgnatiusInsight.com: As you note in the book, the media tends to focus
on stories of disgruntled Catholic youth who are upset with the Church or
have left the Church. In fact, that was readily evident in some of the media
coverage of the conclave and election of Pope Benedict XVI. But what you
describe in Young and Catholic is quite different, isn't it?
Drake: You cant argue with the lasting images from the death of
Pope John Paul II and the election of Pope Benedict XVI. They stand as a
testament to the youthful embrace of Christ and His Church.
When Pope John Paul II fell ill, there the young were, camped out in St.
Peters Square, not wanting to leave the popes side as he lay
dying. When, John Paul died, millions of youth traveled from across Europe
and the U.S. to stand in line for hours, just to catch a glimpse of his
body, even if for just a few seconds.
When Romes bells tolled, signaling that a new pope had been elected,
the young were among the first to leave their posts, running in Romes
streets, flocking into St. Peters Square to hear the news. And once
the word "Joseph" was uttered from the balcony, the young were
the ones who responded so loudly with clapping and shouting that nothing
could be heard afterwards.
The past weeks demonstrate that the Church is neither tired nor old. The
Church is young, vibrant and full of life. This is precisely the story I
am telling in Young and Catholic.
IgnatiusInsight.com: It would be difficult to overstate the influence
that the late Holy Father, John Paul II, had on Catholic youth. What was
unique about his approach? Why did youth react so positively to him?
Drake: The young loved Pope John Paul II because he loved them first.
His pastoral friendship with young people began when he was just a young
priest assigned to rural St. Florian's Catholic Church outside of Krakow.
While working at the parish, Father Wojtyla served students at the Jagiellonian
University, the Krakow Polytechnic and the Academy of Fine Arts. He visited
students in the dormitories and got them to attend conferences on Christian
doctrine.
He launched the parish's first marriage preparation course. He traveled,
hiked, skied and camped with the young. He held retreats and led intellectual
discussion groups with young adults and young married couples. He continued
this relationship with youth as a priest, bishop, Cardinal, and Pope.
When Cardinal Wojtyla became Pope, young people sensed his enthusiasm for
youth. He carried on a preferential dialogue with the youth from his first
days as Pope, until his very last days on this earth.
In John Paul II, young people encountered the love of Jesus himself: that's
what made him so attractive.
IgnatiusInsight.com: It's very early in the pontificate of
Benedict XVI, but what do you think he will do to connect with youth?
Drake: Based upon the youngs reaction to his election, I imagine
that there will be an exciting exchange between Benedict XVI and the youth.
If youve seen some of the images of young adults reacting to the announcement
of his election, their faces show tremendous joy. There is one image posted
at my web site, www.youngandcatholic.com,
that shows a young seminarian reacting with this infectious enthusiasm.
The young have already taken to chanting, "Benedetto, Benedetto!"
when they are in his presence.
Within 24 hours of Pope Benedicts election, he was speaking of continuing
the dialogue and expressed his anticipation for Cologne. When World Youth
Day in Cologne rolls around this August, were going to witness a sight
similar to what we saw in the days following Pope John Paul IIs death.
The young, starving to encounter Christ, will flock to Cologne in massive
numbers. There, Pope Benedict will do what his predecessor did. He will
challenge the youth with the message of the Gospel, and the young will respond
just as they have in Paris, Rome, Manila, Denver and Toronto.
IgnatiusInsight.com: What do you hope your book will accomplish? Why
is its message important?
Drake: The Church has been bogged down by negative news over the past
three years. My prayer is that my book will inspire hope. The Church needs
hope now more than ever.
The books message is important for the young and the old alike. The
young, who are often isolated in their own parishes, need to know that there
are others like themselves. The Church is much larger than their individual
parish.
The aging need to hear this message as well. They need to know that there
is a faithful generation that is following them.
IgnatiusInsight.com: Describe some of the signs of hope that you see
among Catholic youth today. What trends do you see possibly developing in
the next ten to twenty years?
Drake: Its easy for us to think that the youth arent involved
with the Church simply because they arent sitting next to us in the
pew. What I discovered is that they are active in other ways.
They often attend youth Masses on Saturday and Sunday evening. They are
active in Catholic evangelism online. They participate in missionary programs
abroad. Through programs like Theology on Tap, they are gathering in bars
and restaurants to learn about their faith. They are embracing ancient devotions
such as the Rosary and Eucharistic Adoration modernizing them
and making them their own. They are active in programs on both Catholic
and secular college campuses, and they are involved in young adult discussion
and faith-sharing groups across the country. Theyre cracking open
Scripture, as well as Pope John Pauls writings, such as Love
and Responsibility and his "Theology of the Body" and
putting it into practice. This cant help but have an enormously positive
impact upon the Church.
A new group of Catholic leaders is just beginning to emerge around the country.
The "John Paul II Generation" is just beginning to enter positions
of leadership. Over the next two decades this generation of intelligent,
faithful Catholics will exert their influence upon individual parishes,
dioceses, and the Church at large. Over that same time period we will witness
a complete transformation in the priesthood as older priests retire and
younger seminarians are ordained and become pastors. One young nun told
me that every modern vocation owes itself to some degree to John Paul II.
The seeds of the New Springtime have been sown and are beginning to sprout.
I expect to see the springtime come into bloom over the next 15 years.
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